P4ul
3 Jan 2007, 17:31 (edited 22 Feb 07, 15:05 by Booshi)
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Eyecandy
hmm.. I dunno why do some people get so excited over this set maybe because there’s several added tiles? it’s kind of cheap (coughinferno2.0) and it’s not really a reason to raise ratings.
Most of these tiles have been “borrowed” from other tilesets. the only thing he drew himself is the elongated diamondus bush, which is, um, ugly. The whole rest is taken from other tilesets like the textured background from other PJ’s conversions (which he took from diamondus beta) why use this background instead of making a new one instead? (Filter -> Render -> Clouds, PJ). We will also find more (questionable) things, such as the coral from Violet’s conversion of Lagunicus, inferno 2.0 caves, which are slowly getting overused in sets (make them from scratch at least, PJ, because the one you stole has bugs) and background layer stuff from jungle and diamondus.
As for the palettes, there are five of them, two of which are the original ones. For me, the worst one must be the midnight one, which would be decent but the %{color: #FF8000;}ORANGE% wood which look ugly and don’t fit at all. As for sunset, its problem is the background layers. The sand under the shipwreck is also %{color: #FF8000;}ORANGE%. To end with an actually positive accent, I’ll say that the tropical palette is the best one out of all five, the sand and the foliage look great.
Usability
Here the situation is a bit better than in how this looks, but there’s also this one problem that there’s a lot of spare place where you could add more tiles. As for the layout, it’s rather friendly, there should be no problems when finding the right tiles. The mask also has been fixed, but there are still places where it doesn’t fit to itself correctly.
Summary
- Tropical version
Fixed mask
- Few self-made tiles
- Lots of free space
Overall
It hurts me to see that people overrate such conversions heavily. Dont forget that there are better conversions than this (DiamB, NOKA’s pack) which have an equal or lower rating. People, think twice before rating so highly
Edit: I saw a level made from this set (not Birdie’s) and know what? The mask is just as bad as in the original one. The soil barely even tiles, mask-wise :/
7
Clearly there are two rather different reactions to this tileset, and I am sort of torn between them. Looking at in JCS alone, Beach+ is disappointing. You get through the new layout (which is definitely an improvement) and come to a bunch of tiles ripped from half the sets of JJ2 plus my Lagunicus conversion, with no real attempt made to connect them to Beach. Skeletons from Dam Nation and trees from Jungle are plopped verbatim into the set for use in background layers, depending on what sort of freaky level you are playing. It is a mishmosh. Not only that, but the tileset still suffers greatly from masking and art problems which remain unfixed by this conversion. Many of the floor tiles still do not line up well, the masking is sometimes iffy, and more time could have been spent on the layout for the wood stuff.
On the other hand, much like the “Mangroves” Jungle conversion, when put together the tileset somehow manages to look good. Beach has a new look in Beach+ which is not unpleasant, and while Beach+ does not really fix much, it does not break anything either. One could certainly just ignore the random new stuff and simply take advantage of the improved layout, even if the tiles themselves are not fixed. And one or two of the alternate palettes do/es look pretty.
I can’t give too high a rating to this, as it’s really a rather lazy piece of work and has so much to fix. But it doesn’t introduce any new problems.
(.1 point was subtracted for the waterfall. Each subsequent tileset I see using that waterfall is going to receive an additional -.1 point, so .2, .3, .4, etc.)
Zoro
13 Jul 2011, 01:12
7
Looks good… :)
Great conversion. Good work. I will definitely do a level with each of them.
ForthRightMC
16 Mar 2017, 18:40 (edited 16 Mar 17, 18:40)
10
I discovered that beach + evil tileset is missing,so please fix it PJ. By the way, the tilesets are awesome! 10/10 hype
I like how you remaked the official beach tileset with more tiles and other stuff
and also why did you put D*mns skeletons for backgorund, they don’t suit well for beach.
Beach+ Day:
looks good and
Beach+ Night:
Nice, not bad
Beach+ Tropical:
My favorite, this is actually nice
Beach+ Sunset:
No, simply no, why pink sand
Beach+ Midnight:
Nice, maybe the textured background can be darker
Arclite288
12 Apr 2011, 19:50 (edited 17 Apr 11, 14:58)
6
Original review was too heavy-handed. Pack re-rated at 6.
Please don’t ever bring the subject up again, for everyone’s sake.
SaVn
25 Sep 2015, 14:03 (edited 25 Sep 15, 14:10)
10
Pretty Beach tileset remake!
There are new tiles and 5 versions of tileset, but is missing 1 version!
The masks of original beach is bad, in this version are perfect, texturedBG taken from Pyromanus’ s Diamondus Beta. More tiles are token from Jungle 2.0, Carrotus Fix and DiamondusBeta, and added vine, poles and hook.
You can download, it’s useful!
9
wow….that’s all I can say.Apart from a review,of course.
PALLETTE-There were a few good points about the pallettes.There were 5 different pallettes including the 2 original versions.
1.Day 2.Night 3.Midnight
4.Sunset 5.Tropical
The additional pallettes had a lot of quality and the texture was the same to the original pallettes.This is the sort of thing that I like.The next bit of text won’t affect the rating at all, but it’s something that I should mention.The Sunset and Tropical didn’t really live up to their names.What I mean is that the Sunset didn’t look like a sunset and the Tropical didn’t look tropical,really. However,these points do no affect the rating.8/10.
ADDITIONS- There were loads of additions.I had trouble listing them and I might have missed a few out,but most of them are there(if not,all of them)
1.Vines,Poles and Hooks PJ7
2.Caves from Inferno
3. Bubbles and Rain PJ7
4.Dense jungle and trees from Jungle
5.Forground leaves from Carrotus
6.Bushes from Diamondus & PJ7
7.Single pieces of coral PJ7
8.Glowing skeleton eyes from D*** & PJ7
9.Backround mountains from Psych
10.Waterfalls from DiamondDust
11.D*** skeletons
12.All neccesary destruct blocks unknown
13.New textured backround
That is a LOT of additions and you should be proud of that,PJ7. Im not sure if they were all needed,but it gives a lot of choice of which tiles to use.This is a great point about this conversion.9/10.
USEABILITY- This is where the rating is improved amazingly. You have fixed ALL the mask bugs! This,therefor,has made Beach an easier tileset to use,without all the annoying mask bugs. I don’t know why I will not give you 10 for this conversion.10/10.
LAYOUT- This is also a good point about the conversion. The Layer4 tiles are around the top and the backround tiles are around the bottom. The forground tiles are in the middle,stretching into the top and bottom. This form of layout appeales to me. However, i don’t think that the layout is perfect.9/10.
GOOD POINTS-
Great pallettes
Loads of additions
Perfect useability
Very good layout
BAD POINTS- I hope that I didn’t have to say this. There are STILL quite a few tiling bugs. You didn’t really make an effort to fix them.
FINAL SCORE- This is truly a great conversion. All the mask bugs have been fixed. The rating for Beach+ is 8.9. I took 0.1 off because of the bad points. I hope you are happy with this rating.
DR-Yes!
NOKA
3 Jan 2007, 18:18
Unfortunately I have to agree with P4ul here, your conversions are almost 100% ripped from all tilesets all over the J2O. Converting isn’t just pasting some stuff from one set, then from the other and so on, like you do, especially when added stuff don’t really fit to the set you are converting.
I don’t like the fact that you don’t even mention whose work is in your conversions. Those people probably were working hard to make something usable, like Violet CLM who made poles, hook and who placed a coral from jj1 to his conversion of Lagunicus, P4ul who made inferno-caves by himself (this is kind of conversion of tiles which means that you are actually modifing existing tiles, but to do this you have to spend some time working on it too). I believe that those blocks are mine, only recolored.
My review may follow later.
Jazz-Les
3 Jan 2007, 18:41 (edited 3 Jan 07, 18:44)
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Is slavering out of his mouth *
*Is punching himself on his ass *
*Is headbutting the wall *
*Is rolling his eyeballs out of their socket *
*Is typing crazy things *
wt thease are just easy pallete edits i baby could do this , well a 5 year old , take it from a pro tileset maker , but stop thease + things or just release them all in a pack cos its not worth downloading a single easy to do pallete edit tileset.
thanks for reading.
But its a ok pallete edit i guess.